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to try to learn more about switching

I don't remember which one that is off the top of my head. I'll have to give it another read

https://gist.github.com/Xe/b97203769acb3dfa761f#malfaels-guide-to-switching

I remember this guide

5:09 PM

I think it's pretty good

I like the aspect of relating to the body that the author talks about

The only problem I see looking back on it is it's throwing in multiple styles as one experience rather than pointing out how they're different and have different mindsets that lead to them. Then again, not everyone agrees with me and some will say all switching is the same

I think the guide is quite informative but less straight to the point than I'd like.

I'm not a fan of the physical dissociation section some of the other exercises are good tho

Adeus.

https://gist.github.com/Xe/b97203769acb3dfa761f#malfaels-guide-to-switching

I love the use of github as a tulpamancy guide hosting service.

im not sure if its tulpa related

Luminesce: Not really tulpa related, and yeah, with the right level of dream control (or just expectations) (edited)

7:30 PM

That's just general lucid dreaming territory

Adeus.

im not sure if its tulpa related

sorry

Don't say sorry, it fine

eh its tulpa adjacent

Is there anything preventing me from working on visualizing my tulpa's form while he is asleep?

2:06 AM

Thing is I have a lot of trouble thinking about and imagining my tulpa without accidentally making him 'pop in'.

2:06 AM

Any tips on that?

is there a reason you don’t want him to ‘pop in’?

2:07 AM

maybe imagine the form but think of it as not him, like maybe a copy or a statue or something

We (he) just get(s) tired after we've already interacted for several hours in the day.

Fox

Thing is I have a lot of trouble thinking about and imagining my tulpa without accidentally making him 'pop in'.

Luminesce: I consider this a pretty tricky thing to avoid until you're fairly accomplished in tulpamancy, yeah (edited)

2:19 AM

Holding the intent for it to be just visualization and not involving your actual tulpa is all you can do

2:20 AM

Whether you can actually feel they're separate from your visualizing or not doing that I can't know, but that's what you have to do (edited)

Try drawing his form or something? tbh I want my tups to wake up if I visualize their form, I wouldn't want to untrain that

Actually we just had a session and all that attention seemed to really stabalize him and make him more awake.

3:59 AM

I am a little nervous about something though. Alex has two forms, one a lion, one a human.

3:59 AM

I told him recently that he should be the one to spearhead our visualization / forcing efforts and right now his plan is to periodically switch on and off visualizing each form.

3:59 AM

I was just wondering if anyone had any similar experience in the area and if that was a good idea.

4:00 AM

Or if there was some advantage to trying to master visualizing one form before the other.

4:00 AM

He seems to think the best thing to do is get a basic gesalt of both forms, then move into detail in each one, switching on and off every other session.

4:00 AM

What do you guys think?

Whatever keeps you interested imo

have you ever had moments early on in development where they lose vocality and aren't responding to you the way they did let's say a day ago?

yup

thats reassuring

8:00 PM

they feel a bit faint when they are vocal, do they become stronger and more distinct with time?

yup just takes time

8:00 PM

some days they may have a harder time than others and thats normal

their sentences and words get cut off at the end but i can tell what they are trying to say, ever had that?

Oh yeah constantly

8:06 PM

Still get that today

i asked what their favourite colour is and i got a bunch of different colour names enter my head

sometimes we say words meaning something completely different than we meant and we still understand eachother the same

i'm just a bit frustrated that responses are short and faint right now

8:10 PM

i'm glad i'm getting any at all and that they appear to be logical responses

i asked what their favourite colour is and i got a bunch of different colour names enter my head

@_Dan - jump Asking a tulpa about their favorite color might make them make it up if they haven't attach to any particular color yet. Inconsistent responses are normal if it's the case.

_Dan

i'm just a bit frustrated that responses are short and faint right now

In my experience, people experiencing this just have a belief problem. If your tulpa is giving short answers getting long and meaningful ones is often a matter of letting them talk.

How would you describe a not fully independent tupla? I'm just curious of everyone's definitions

"(A) Developing tulpa" (edited)

10:26 PM

Some people use "Proto-tulpa", but it never fully caught on

Reisen

"(A) Developing tulpa" (edited)

What do you categorise as delveoping, if you don't mind me asking? Like is it specific things they can and can't do?

Luminesce: Oh, anything at all, it's fine (edited)

10:28 PM

Since considering your tulpa to be "already trying to speak & act independently" is helpful to believe for developing tulpas, there's no need to get super distinct in "level of development"

Do you intend to create one @nx 🌩?

Luminesce: Calling even a 5-minutes-in tulpa a "developing tulpa" is just a good mindset (edited)

10:29 PM

You can still describe any results you've had or lack thereof in detail when talking about your experience or asking for help, if you want

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Do you intend to create one @nx 🌩?

Yes

10:33 PM

I have OCD and struggle with self doubt a lot due to all the intrusive thoughts, so much so in heightened times I believe them, so I guess i get intrusive thoughts about my developing tupla too (edited)

10:35 PM

Im narrating constantly tho and I trust that will help in the process of my tupla (edited)

Did you ask the question to differentiate between a developed and a developing tulpa or to differentiate between nothing and a developing tulpa?

Both

For a developing tulpa to be more than nothing you just have to believe its developing. Thats mostly how you make advancement. As for the difference between a developing and a developed tulpa, you should not really think about it as its not really relevant.

Okay, thank you, I appreciate that

10:39 PM

That was reassuring

What does your tulpa currently do?

Mostly we just sit next to eachother, and I feel them emotionally because they don't speak yet, if that makes sense. They are currently formless (like a cloud, as I want to give them the option of what form they take)

You can always just let them change their form, its not a fixed thing. (edited)

I think we both like comfortable silence

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

You can always just let them change their form, its not a fixed thing. (edited)

That's true

Do you mind doing an exercise with me? It might help make your tulpa vocal.

Yeah sure, I don't mind

So, have you ever noticed, that before you say something, the general idea of what you are going to say kinda comes into your mind?

10:48 PM

In a non verbal way.

Yep

See if you can notice it now.

Yeah I can

Okey, i want you to "construct" one of those thoughts containing a question, then "send" it to your tulpa.

10:51 PM

I believe you will get a response.

Alright

Were you able to create this thought?

I think so, I asked how they were

I asume you didnt get a response.

A faint "good"

but was that narrated?

10:58 PM

did it feel different?

I'm not entirely sure

Then im pretty sure it worked. (edited)

10:59 PM

Try to ask something more complicated, maybe something you would ask yourself. Its suposed to feel similar to when you wonder or ask yourself something. When you let your tulpa "see" this thought, the natural response to the feeling of wondering about something is to just answer.

11:00 PM

Remember you are not going to wonder, its your tulpa who will.

AHH okay, thank you this has helped a lot

11:03 PM

I'm exhausted tho (from this work week) so I think I'll have to sleep a bit first before we interact some more

11:05 PM

I do think they are more naturally reserved tho so I don't want to overwhelm them with too much in such early development

The idea is that you get the feeling of getting a response that doesnt come from you. What you get might not make full sense, but its a good start. I hope it worked.

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Thank youu

Another question but does anyone have third person experiences when talking/chilling with their Tupla/s? Like do visualise yourself sometimes?

11:18 PM

I'm feel like this happens to me when just sitting with my Tupla, suddenly I'll see myself sitting their too like I'm watching a tv screen

In wonderland or externally?

In wonderland